If you ever hear me talking about work I eventually get around to having to wear pants as the worst part of my job. Really do not care for uniforms and pants are the man bringing me down. A while back I broke down and got me some dockers that were pleated and well they just irked me cuz they looked so bad. Anyways I decided to get some dockers that are much heavier and pert near jean like. I love them. Might not look as fanchy, but I aint dressing to impress ya know what I mean.