my gmail got hacked :(

so sorry too you all who got emails from me

I am not able to send emails for 24 hours so I will reply here I guess.

to Gary:

http://www.memakefood.com/2008/05/10/roast-in-the-dutch-oven/

We have had bunches of problems with roasts in the past. We have had luck with the method above a bunch recently though. A good 5 hours at 200 degrees seems to make it come out tender.

Although rubbing spices all over it and prime ribbing it sounds good.

Good luck.

Steve

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